Episode 5
Jeff Esposito of Kaspersky Security
In episode five of Podcaster Stories, I sit down with Jeff Esposito, Global Head of Regional Social Media at Kaspersky, and co-host of the Transatlantic Cable Podcast.
After being an early adopter of social media, and working on the PR and communications side of VistaPrint, Jeff started at Kaspersky, where he uses the company's podcast to educate both consumers and business of the importance of online security and data protection.
In this week’s show, I sit down with Jeff to talk about the changing face of security, and some of the things you can do to protect yourself.
Topics on the menu include:
- Why the Kaspersky podcast was launched
- How the dark web operates
- How to monitor what your kids are doing online
- How to protect your family from hackers
- Some simple tips on securing your home network without breaking the bank
- Why you should never pick up random USB sticks
Settle back for an informative show about security, what privacy online really looks like, and why you should never assume businesses have your best interests at heart.
Connect with Jeff:
Contact me: danny@podcasterstories.com
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Transcript
Hi, and welcome to Podcaster Stories each week we will
Speaker:have a conversation with Podcast those across all mediums and
Speaker:share their story. What motivates them, why they start to
Speaker:do a show at the groove show and more, but
Speaker:also talk about their personal lives and some of the
Speaker:things that have happened that made them the person they
Speaker:the afternoon. And now here's your host Danny Brown Hey
Speaker:guys, welcome to another episode of Podcaster Stories or where
Speaker:we talk to the people behind the voices of the
Speaker:show is that we listened to this week. I've got
Speaker:a friend of mine from Boston, Massachusetts. Who's a, one
Speaker:of the, the main communication guys at Kaspersky. Did I
Speaker:say that? Right? I'd never get that word.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:We did it because it's Kaspersky now we rebranded in
Speaker:it's a Russian name. So it's hard to say
Speaker:Because especially for a scope you've got canceled. Yeah. So
Speaker:I've got Jeff Esposito on from As you mentioned Kaspersky
Speaker:so I'm going to let Jeff mentioned it, but I'm,
Speaker:I'm just going to stop right there. And we're going
Speaker:to be talking about the show that you know, where
Speaker:it came from, the idea is behind the et cetera,
Speaker:and go from there. So Jeff I over to you?
Speaker:Hey, so thanks for having me. Danny like you said,
Speaker:I am, you know, I'm the global head of regional
Speaker:social media at Kaspersky and I am one of the
Speaker:two hosts surrounding our podcast called The Transatlantic Cable podcast,
Speaker:where we talk about Security and ways that both consumers
Speaker:and businesses could look up their Security game.
Speaker:So the Podcast Dan is directed, are both a consumer
Speaker:and business that is not just like a lot of
Speaker:corporate, but Podcast its not just four businesses and you're
Speaker:trying to educate, you know?
Speaker:Yeah. So when we started it out, like we know
Speaker:that the security is not always the sexiest news topic.
Speaker:Yeah. Everybody, everybody gets excited when you hear about it,
Speaker:like the shadow brokers leaks or you know, wiki-leaks with
Speaker:things or even an Edward Snowden. But when you look
Speaker:at the end of the day, there's a lot of
Speaker:bad stuff that happens on a weekly basis when we
Speaker:started it, it was more on educating people in 20
Speaker:minutes or less was the original goal, give five Security
Speaker:stories with people who need to care about, you know,
Speaker:we tend to keep it where it's that weird mix
Speaker:of businesses and consumers. But we also veer a lot
Speaker:towards the, you know, the Podcast has evolved over time.
Speaker:So we're looking at doing a spinoff now with a
Speaker:team members of mine, from Dubai and Istanbul to take
Speaker:on the more B to C version and my, myself
Speaker:and my partner, Dave Buxton, who is over in the
Speaker:UK are going to talk about more towards things that
Speaker:are small to enterprise level of businesses, which are focusing
Speaker:on bigger types of stories versus the Gen Hey, Facebook
Speaker:got breached.
Speaker:If Facebook had a data breech, here's what we need
Speaker:to know or hay tic-tacs owned by China. So this
Speaker:is what you need to know type of thing.
Speaker:Okay. So it's going to more niche than for the,
Speaker:the existing Podcast that an offer on a consumer or
Speaker:only version?
Speaker:Yeah, its, its one week it's when we worked on,
Speaker:because as you said before, it's a very hard to
Speaker:juggle, you know, something that security related for an enterprise
Speaker:level of customer down to somebody who's, you know, just
Speaker:a person like me or you that are looking for
Speaker:security to keep our internet browsing save. So I think
Speaker:when we look at it, there was a clear need
Speaker:to delineate things. And also, but at the end of
Speaker:the day we still have a lot of fun with
Speaker:it. You know, you know me, I can't not have
Speaker:fun in something I do is not going to be
Speaker:boring. So we, we make, we make our fair share
Speaker:of things. And I know that that people listen to
Speaker:can't see it, but I have my little pink dinosaur
Speaker:here. This is, this is my curse button. So when
Speaker:I'm going to whatever I'm going to curse, I squeeze
Speaker:it because the editing has become too hard to cur
Speaker:they cut out my curse.
Speaker:So, so we try to keep it that way and,
Speaker:and it kind of brings some humor to it because
Speaker:pinkie is, is quite sexy.
Speaker:So I mean, I'm guessing that's being pressed quite a
Speaker:few times then knowing yourself.
Speaker:Yeah. We had one episode where I squeezed it for
Speaker:two minutes straight and then I saw that I still
Speaker:messed up and said a curse word or five. It
Speaker:has to be cut out 'cause it was, it was
Speaker:just one of those things that, you know, we talked
Speaker:about a story that was, you know, it was related
Speaker:to child predators online and what they were doing. So
Speaker:it was a story about how there was a, a
Speaker:forum that was trading access to get involved with for
Speaker:lack of a better word kiddie porn. So it is,
Speaker:I'm not sure any parent can talk about that without
Speaker:having negative feelings about
Speaker:Oh no, for sure. I know when we, when I
Speaker:started the, the marketing on tap podcast with Sam Fiorella,
Speaker:one of the others we spoke about one week was
Speaker:the dark web. And that was the topic again, to
Speaker:your point, you know, as a parent, you, you do
Speaker:to get triggered, you know, to use our overused word
Speaker:and, and it's natural. So I could imagine, you know,
Speaker:some of the things,
Speaker:But it's a fair point and in the dark web
Speaker:is a nasty place
Speaker:And, and I'm sure like you must necessarily like something
Speaker:that I wanted to ask actually 'cause of the, the
Speaker:topic of the Podcast itself. And is there any sort
Speaker:of challenges on how far you can go on the
Speaker:topic to discuss and what you can know and what,
Speaker:you know, personally from a security point of view is
Speaker:if it's something that you can see because you don't
Speaker:want to scare people, for example,
Speaker:Well, I think there is a very fine line. Like
Speaker:you can go full on Fudd and make some money
Speaker:really scared and that's easy to do, but that's not
Speaker:fun. And I think when we look at Stories to
Speaker:any, we really take a delicate view of it, of,
Speaker:Hey, is this, so we actually have a decent news.
Speaker:Filter like, we don't go by the fake news. So
Speaker:something that isn't reported on a credible site, if we're
Speaker:looking at something like with a data breach, how credible
Speaker:is the source, is this legal something that somebody going
Speaker:to, and also we have to put it on the
Speaker:corporate Head of is this in line with our company's
Speaker:messaging while we will bring up the threats about it,
Speaker:we will also tell you how to keep yourself safe.
Speaker:So, you know, you know, for example, the story we
Speaker:talked about about the dark web and stuff happening with
Speaker:kids, we spun it into a whole area of how
Speaker:do you talk to your kids about what they're sharing
Speaker:online?
Speaker:And it's, it's one of the few times that I'll
Speaker:actually agree with a lot of the things that is
Speaker:done by both the Google and a Facebook and having
Speaker:age limits for accountants, because there are certain things that
Speaker:kids be doing on the web, but also, you know,
Speaker:it makes you rethink about, you know, some of the
Speaker:things we thought about when both of us were coming
Speaker:up in the social media industry, has it opened. I
Speaker:think if I could go back to 2006, 2007 Geoff,
Speaker:you know how some of the things that I did
Speaker:now that then are, are fully questionable. Now, when you
Speaker:look at how we're looking at, you know, privacy and
Speaker:things like that. So, you know, I also hold myself
Speaker:to, to my own part of Gilt on certain things
Speaker:that are done in the past our sins to the
Speaker:father.
Speaker:But now you look at, you know, it's out there
Speaker:that you don't want to scare people. You want to
Speaker:just be able to give them real. Topics 'cause look,
Speaker:if you tell any parent, Hey, look, there's probably naked
Speaker:pictures of your kid out on the web. You know,
Speaker:the first thing my parents are going to want to
Speaker:do is grab one of the phones and be like,
Speaker:no, no, you can't have one of these go back
Speaker:to the dumb phone. Right. Which, which isn't, which isn't
Speaker:the right way to do it. And it's more, you
Speaker:know, how do you educate? And that's, that's what we
Speaker:look at it for us is educational and the versus
Speaker:the fear because, you know, fear is easy to do,
Speaker:you know? And, and, and we're not a government, that's
Speaker:not our job to make people scared. All right.
Speaker:And again, I mean, obviously how old are your kids
Speaker:again?
Speaker:I've got, you know, so it's usually going to be
Speaker:so seven and nine are going to be at your
Speaker:digital kids. So it's,
Speaker:It would be similar to that because I feel like
Speaker:I find it. My friends have got teenage kids that
Speaker:are some of the stories they tell you about trying
Speaker:to get them to do something or keep them safe
Speaker:online. For example, is very different from the conversations we'd
Speaker:have and with our kids'. And I guess for you,
Speaker:and when your kids, because different ages, is that something
Speaker:that Kaspersky could help you and it's with just, you
Speaker:know, based on age, this is what you should be
Speaker:doing to look out for it to them.
Speaker:Sure. Yeah. We've got it. Over on our blog at
Speaker:Kaspersky dot com slash blog. There's a number of articles
Speaker:out there. Plus we do also offer a product called
Speaker:safe kids, which is something, if it's a parental control
Speaker:for devices. So if you install it on a kid's
Speaker:Android device or tablet, you can actually start to see
Speaker:what stuff people are doing with parental, because that was
Speaker:the controls. And because of this whole COVID quarantine stuff,
Speaker:like one of the things I really liked that a
Speaker:lot about lately is we have to go by the
Speaker:kids' Chromebooks because that's where the school, those there there's
Speaker:stuff going on. And what I found really cool. It
Speaker:was some of the parental filters that are built in
Speaker:when you tie them to a parent account that like,
Speaker:for example, you can stop the kids from visiting certain
Speaker:sites.
Speaker:And that's, that's what we found out is important. But
Speaker:I think that the one part it was gonna sound
Speaker:silly is almost go back to the approach of you,
Speaker:you know, what our grandparents had. You've got to be
Speaker:open with the kids and talking to them, but also
Speaker:nothing's done in a private room. So like I remember
Speaker:growing up the telephone was only on the wall in
Speaker:the kitchen and that's where he had to talk on
Speaker:the phone. And the same thing holds true. And now
Speaker:with our kids are like, the computers had to be
Speaker:used within our sight so that we can actually make
Speaker:sure they're not doing anything because you know, even a
Speaker:YouTube kids, you know, my son was watching something on
Speaker:there the other day. And some twisted person past by
Speaker:Google is Filter by turning, like they had a Nerf
Speaker:gun battle, but turned almost into looking like bullets in
Speaker:the after effects.
Speaker:Right? So it's like this and it's got like, it,
Speaker:it was really bad. And I was like, this is
Speaker:what shows up. Or if they watch YouTube on the
Speaker:television, now everybody's got a smart TVs. You can't opt
Speaker:out of the ads. And like sometimes kids are watching
Speaker:shows or like whatever songs they're looking for. One of
Speaker:the commercials is for a damn horror movie.
Speaker:Nah, for sure. I'm like you say, I know that
Speaker:it can't be easy. You know, I have been as
Speaker:big, huge social corporations. I'm trying to get the right,
Speaker:you know, the right line. But I think it still
Speaker:could improve a lot of that algorithm in to making
Speaker:sure stuff like that doesn't pop up.
Speaker:Yeah. And I think, I think they're doing a number
Speaker:of steps to get in that direction. Are they there
Speaker:yet know? And I think the problem comes down is
Speaker:how much staff could you allocate it to this? Because
Speaker:you need people to actually do a Filter machine learning
Speaker:is great. But when it comes down to a certain
Speaker:content, the only way that you can check it is
Speaker:where the human eye and know these are the ones
Speaker:that job that's a crappy job. I, I would never
Speaker:want that job.
Speaker:And I, I would say just to get a stress
Speaker:and a lot of the PTSD, it must come from
Speaker:some of the stuff that you, you were watching. It.
Speaker:There is a really good article about that. I forget
Speaker:if I forget what publication it was in, but they
Speaker:talk to the content editors. It might have been the
Speaker:Washington post or motherboard had a story where they talk
Speaker:to the content editors at both Facebook and Google. And
Speaker:they said, all of them had a case of PTSD
Speaker:by the end of like the first month.
Speaker:Wow. Now I just showed you some of the stuff
Speaker:that they must go on there must be in a
Speaker:half day and look through,
Speaker:Well, I think some of them too got hired. Like
Speaker:some of them were for Arabic speaking countries. So immediately
Speaker:it, it goes towards like, they are here filtering terror
Speaker:groups based on this area. And that's not something that
Speaker:you really can look through, you know?
Speaker:So how can I Security Podcast has it been any
Speaker:topics that you have discussed? Cause you don't know about
Speaker:sure. One 30, one 40 at the moment we want
Speaker:to call.
Speaker:Yeah. I think it's something like that. Like one 30,
Speaker:one 32, something like that.
Speaker:So has there been any topics have surprised you and
Speaker:Dave the most, either through naivety of people that were
Speaker:scammed or businesses that just had the most basic one-on-one
Speaker:security issue or anything like that, that is go over
Speaker:there. The last thing, you know, a hundred plus shows.
Speaker:So there was a few of them that really stood
Speaker:out to us. You know, I'm thinking about it, you
Speaker:know, perhaps the one that gets us the most and
Speaker:I always feel bad whenever we do it, but we
Speaker:rip on Facebook so much. There they are an easy
Speaker:target, but a lot of the things that they do,
Speaker:you know, and just that people still trust them. Like
Speaker:the amount of trust that people have in, in Facebook
Speaker:itself is quite terrifying, especially when you know how their
Speaker:business model is made, especially with selling the targeted ads.
Speaker:So that's one spot that, that always gets me. But
Speaker:another one actually goes out to How careless. People are
Speaker:You know, for example, I think this was one or
Speaker:two years ago and somebody in the British government lost
Speaker:a USB stick on the Metro that had the Queen's
Speaker:rout to Heathrow airport, but also like a Security setup
Speaker:of when the Royal family goes through Heathrow.
Speaker:Oh wow. Of what the protocols we're. So when you
Speaker:think about that, its just like, how do you, how
Speaker:do you do that? And I think if you, if
Speaker:you look down and you look like people like will
Speaker:pick up the USBs and plug them in when they
Speaker:find them, that's the other thing that scares me because
Speaker:that's one of those things that nobody thinks about. But
Speaker:as a lot of malicious things that people will put
Speaker:onto the USB ports and could really screw up somebody's
Speaker:computer just by plugging it in.
Speaker:And I like, you see a note of that, but
Speaker:I guess its security is a factor or what's on
Speaker:this and you want to check it out. Right. But
Speaker:if you say, as soon as you are open and
Speaker:click on one of these files or something, that's it
Speaker:you're hooked.
Speaker:Oh, you don't even have to put it on a
Speaker:file. Like there is so, so one of the things
Speaker:that I, this is where I am a researcher from
Speaker:Google had done research a few years ago at the
Speaker:hacker conference, black hat that I had went to and
Speaker:he had a report, they worked to a college or
Speaker:university and had a bunch of these USB sticks and
Speaker:they dropped them around campus to see how many people
Speaker:would pick them up. And it was over 40% of
Speaker:the USBs that were picked up, were installed into a
Speaker:computer. And what they did was when it goes in,
Speaker:it loads a file that when they report back to
Speaker:where they, where the computer was, it was a non
Speaker:malicious area. But it's still with something that you're telling
Speaker:me that if I, if I went and greet, reach
Speaker:down, you are going to plug this in. Maybe it
Speaker:has something I don't have it.
Speaker:It shouldn't be. And that's how a lot of criminals
Speaker:will get into businesses. Like a lot of times they'll,
Speaker:they'll do a USB drop to hopefully somebody incorporation X,
Speaker:Y, or Z, we'll plug it into their computer and
Speaker:they get into the network.
Speaker:And I guess for so many smart applications at home,
Speaker:now you get your smart refrigerator or for example, you've
Speaker:got obviously or your echo dot and all of that.
Speaker:And Alexa, and I guess that is a pretty easy
Speaker:way of, for hackers to gain access to your own
Speaker:personal security systems at home.
Speaker:Yeah. That's, that's a very big won the internet of
Speaker:things or the internet of shit, whatever you want to
Speaker:call it. There are any, any little thing that is
Speaker:a, is a way in to them. The other problem
Speaker:is when everybody gets these devices built, they're hoping for
Speaker:a convenience part. So you don't, you get an a,
Speaker:you know, Amazon wants you to buy Alexa 'cause it
Speaker:helps you by more stuff on Amazon. You want an
Speaker:Amazon dot or Alexa in a house because you could
Speaker:play music whenever you want to get the weather whenever
Speaker:you want, or even in a refrigerator connected to the
Speaker:internet. I don't know why you need that, but I'll
Speaker:go with it. But a lot of times these devices
Speaker:have the same username and password that are default on
Speaker:them. All right. So if you don't change it, there,
Speaker:there is a whole bunch of sites like a showdown
Speaker:or a census, which our website, you can go to
Speaker:app and scan for devices that are hooked up to
Speaker:the internet.
Speaker:And a lot of times people get into them. I
Speaker:think, you know, you probably have seen many of the
Speaker:stories about how a parent ha had this wifi enabled
Speaker:baby monitor. But now if somebody is talking through it,
Speaker:it's because somebody finds the address at a device and
Speaker:is usually admin password or a password password. And Boom
Speaker:there until the device and could control it from somewhere
Speaker:else.
Speaker:That's scary. And that would say, yes, the The. So,
Speaker:you know, the convenience of smart homes is, is awesome.
Speaker:But then you got the flip side. Obviously
Speaker:I don't have any of those things in my house,
Speaker:But I guess what can it Kaspersky you, you, you
Speaker:know, you, you pretty much allow them. Right.
Speaker:But I think when you, when you look at it,
Speaker:like even on the router, like if, if you think
Speaker:about it, how many people changed the password on their
Speaker:router,
Speaker:Right? Yeah. That it comes with a default one that's
Speaker:already set up
Speaker:And it's there and it's printed on the back of
Speaker:it, which makes it even worse. But I think when
Speaker:you look at it, like those are all of the
Speaker:things that I like working here, like how I came
Speaker:from a printing car company before this is a Vista
Speaker:print, and now I'm here doing security. And I'm like,
Speaker:wow, this is kind of sketchy stuff.
Speaker:Especially if it's a smart printer, all I can do
Speaker:some 3d printing or whatever.
Speaker:Well, you know, there was that whole Well. Yeah, that'd
Speaker:be pretty cool. But then the other one with the,
Speaker:the, the printer, it was like the Pewdie pie thing
Speaker:from a few years ago, like when they are, who
Speaker:is having the battle of who was the top of
Speaker:YouTube star with some Indian guy in his fans, went
Speaker:and found connected printers and were printing out letters to
Speaker:subscribe to the Pewdie pie. That's scary too much time
Speaker:on it.
Speaker:Oh, a way to much the same map. So, so
Speaker:on that note, then what, I mean also did a
Speaker:whole bunch of advice on the podcast and I will
Speaker:drop all the links to the shows and the blog,
Speaker:et cetera, in the show notes. But M what piece
Speaker:of advice would you give to either an and an
Speaker:individual consumer on a small business owners that may not
Speaker:have that the funds to get huge, you know, our
Speaker:corporate firewall, et cetera, what a piece of advice would
Speaker:you give them on making themselves a secure as possible
Speaker:online?
Speaker:Well, I think there's a few things. One of them
Speaker:is getting a, a Security, you know, any, any type
Speaker:of business or any type of home needs a security
Speaker:solution on their computers. There's a number of free ones
Speaker:out there. You know, if you use Microsoft devices, defender
Speaker:is actually a, a, you know, a serviceable option. But
Speaker:one of the things to think about too is whenever
Speaker:you make a network, whether it's at home or at
Speaker:your office has made a variety of them. So in
Speaker:my home right now, I've got my home network, which
Speaker:is the cable connected to it. And things like that,
Speaker:my guests network, which anybody coming to the house can
Speaker:connect to, if they get the password from me, and
Speaker:then I've got my work network, which is completely separate.
Speaker:So I have, you know, you can see it in
Speaker:my office, but there is another router sitting in my
Speaker:office it's for mine, but I don't let anybody else
Speaker:on to those ones.
Speaker:And also make sure, like the basic thing is, make
Speaker:sure you're changing all of the passwords because the basic
Speaker:passwords or where people are going to get in trouble.
Speaker:If, you know, if you're using devices, you know, look
Speaker:at having different passwords for every site, a password manager
Speaker:is a great way to remember those instead of using
Speaker:Danny is cute. One through three for, for every site
Speaker:or Your or your children's names and birthdays. Those are
Speaker:all things that are easy to guess. Another area to
Speaker:is just described to a service call. Have I been
Speaker:pawned it's have I been pawned.com and pretty much I'm
Speaker:this guy, Troy hunt, run's a site at any time,
Speaker:your email address is access to a data breach. It
Speaker:will email you about it.
Speaker:So, you know what information is extra out there to
Speaker:be careful in terms of phishing emails or looking into
Speaker:if we need to change their passwords. And then if
Speaker:you're looking at it like an extra layer of security
Speaker:on things, you know, there is security keys right now,
Speaker:there is like a little key, a key fobs you'd
Speaker:put on your computer and they're called Fido keys, which
Speaker:allow you to log in just from plugging in a
Speaker:key into your computer. And those are just an extra
Speaker:level of security that you can have on accounts. It's
Speaker:a two factor authentication. And I think, you know, one
Speaker:of the things that also helps too, is making sure
Speaker:you update your software and any virus programs quite regularly,
Speaker:because you know, let's face it. There is not a
Speaker:D you know, we become ever dependent on tech.
Speaker:So all of these things, you know, while you like
Speaker:to say software is perfect, when it comes out, it's
Speaker:not, there is always a new version or an update,
Speaker:and it's really something to, to, to update as you
Speaker:go along.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay, cool. No, flipping it over it a little
Speaker:bit now for people that they may or may not
Speaker:know yet, what are some things that not a lot
Speaker:of people know about you, but it might surprise them.
Speaker:So this is a really funny one. And I shared
Speaker:this at, at a, at an offsite meeting while we
Speaker:were still allowed to do offsite meetings. I probably traveled
Speaker:about 16 to 20 times a year. Usually international. And
Speaker:one of the things that I despised the most in
Speaker:the world is flying. So I, I hate, I hate
Speaker:traveling on airplanes and it's kind of ironic knowing that,
Speaker:you know, 16 to 20 times a year, I'm flying
Speaker:internationally. My short, my shortest trip last year, since this
Speaker:year is all out the window was to, so last
Speaker:year it was to Florida on a family vacation. The
Speaker:second shortest was Las Vegas. I should know the second
Speaker:shortest flight it took last year. It was to the
Speaker:UK.
Speaker:So to London was a second shortest longest was to
Speaker:Singapore
Speaker:The last, almost a full day there. So it was
Speaker:more than a full day of fun times. So I
Speaker:go and do you have to take anything? Then you
Speaker:say you don't like flying too. You have to take
Speaker:anything or did you just, what happens? All right. That
Speaker:was the good stuff.
Speaker:I might take that one, but then to avoid jet
Speaker:lag, I I've become like the human Guinea pig for
Speaker:a sleeping pills to catch up on jet lag. So
Speaker:I take melatonin and like this I'm the NyQuil stuff,
Speaker:the Zs or whatever it is, I mix those two
Speaker:things and it puts me out to sleep, to catch
Speaker:up with the, the areas, but on planes, I don't
Speaker:like to be, I'd rather be, have too many boos
Speaker:in me that have a pills because I've tried some
Speaker:pills on the plane. And if you get woken up,
Speaker:do you have a really bad flight? I'd prefer to
Speaker:just have alcohol alcoholics to kind of deal with those.
Speaker:Cause they know how to deal with myself being drunk.
Speaker:I like losing a, a, a, a dollar bet, for
Speaker:example. Exactly. Yeah. All right. What was the Jeff like
Speaker:I say it, I appreciate you coming out today and
Speaker:I'm sure like the, the stuff you've been sharing, it's
Speaker:really going to help a lot. People. I know it
Speaker:will be doing, you know, a recheck in my, my
Speaker:ride or a passport and go home. Security I never
Speaker:thought actually, a boat set up a guest wifi account
Speaker:for people, you know, the family over it or whatever.
Speaker:Then you can also stop people from so all of
Speaker:your devices or tools, like let's say your PlayStation or
Speaker:Xbox, your Chrome cast, you're your cable. All of that
Speaker:stuff is hooked into the whole network and yours and
Speaker:your wife's stuff is set in to there. That's for
Speaker:you guys to be on. But on the guest network,
Speaker:nobody can truthfully jump onto another area. Plus when you've
Speaker:had the guest network set up, you can actually determine
Speaker:what people are on line and what they're doing at
Speaker:your house. So like, let's say you have Sam over
Speaker:the house and he starts looking at a weird websites.
Speaker:You can look back to the device level to see
Speaker:his, like, you know, looking at scotch where if for
Speaker:some reason, Ginny ever wants to come up from Chicago,
Speaker:you'll be able to see her looking at like all
Speaker:of her magazine stuff that she loves.
Speaker:It's just going to love that show up early. I
Speaker:know that I have it. All right. Okay. So you
Speaker:have, so, so people are wanting to learn more as
Speaker:a, by listening to the podcast or reading a Security
Speaker:blog or just, you know, hanging out with you, where
Speaker:is the best fit as a place to find you
Speaker:online? It
Speaker:Is in the best place to get in touch with
Speaker:me. Online is Twitter. It's at Jeff expo. And I'll
Speaker:happily talk to anybody on there. Yeah. It usually most
Speaker:people
Speaker:The block and felt, okay. I like to say I
Speaker:will. I'll make sure that I dropped the, yeah. The
Speaker:link to the, where the podcast and the blog done
Speaker:in the show notes. All right, brother. Thank you. No
Speaker:worries. I appreciate being our guys. So this has been
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