Episode 9

Pete Cann of the Laughter & Positivity with Pete Podcast

In episode nine of Podcaster Stories, I sit down with Pete Cann of the Laughter & Positivity with Pete podcast.

After building an agency for chefs for 11 years, the Covid-19 pandemic put Pete's business on hold, and he had to furlough his team. However, this allowed him to focus on a podcast idea he'd been thinking about for a while.

Taking his cue from a virtual event called the Laughter Phone, Pete expanded on how he used positivity and laughter in his business to start his Laughter & Positivity show, and bring the world of laughter yoga and laughter professionals to a wider audience.

Topics up for discussion this week include:

  • how he first got into being a laughter professional
  • his process for the show, as it switches between just featuring him and having guests as well
  • the episode that stuck with him the most
  • why his life could have been vastly different if he'd stuck on the path he was on as a younger man
  • why Covid-19 has been an opportunity
  • how you can use laughter yoga techniques in your everyday life

Settle back for a fun and interesting chat on why laughter truly is good for the soul.

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Transcript
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Hi, and welcome to Podcaster Stories each year we will

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have a conversation with Podcast. It was across all mediums

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and share their story. What motivates them, why they started

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her show as a group or a show and more,

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but also talk about their personal lives and some of

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the things that have happened that made them the person

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after a day. And now here's your host Danny Brown

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Hey guys. And welcome to another episode of Podcaster. Stories

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where we talked to the voices of the people behind

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a show is we will listen to it this week.

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I've got Pete Cann on the show. We are going

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to be talking about how he's Podcast came about through

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the, the COVID-19 pandemic and his hopes, a, you know,

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what is the podcast series and how that ties into,

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you know, his existing business, etc.

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So Pete, welcome to the show. And I appreciate you

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joining us today. How about you tell us a little

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bit about yourself and your role.

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Yeah, so like it's nice to meet you too remotely.

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That's that's all we can do at the moment. So

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that name's Pete Cann and not being a business owner

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for the last 11 years running our chef agency, however,

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sort of a part of my makeup is sort of

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helping people as well. And I'm, I've been doing the

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online stuff through sort of Facebook or like a group

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called you can wear sort of thought that I spoke

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to them that the theme of NFP can, you can

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sew sort of that positive mental attitude, all about gratitude,

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talking about daily habits, about visualization or all of the

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good stuff that's got me from a sort of wear.

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I was 11 years, well, further than 11 years ago

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to where I am today. And what I found, like

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you said that you used to run a chef agency

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so that we are not used to that wrong terminology.

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You don't use it that I still run as a

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chef agency, but obviously being Covid at the moment, our

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hospitality there's no need for chef. So what I've taken

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this opportunity is to actually sort of dive deep into

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my sort of Positivity side of things, but it also

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on a Laughter leader. So I, I learned how to

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run Laughter yoga sessions about three years ago. And it's

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just, again, a daily habit that I have.

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And what happened was it was world Laughter a day

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back in may at the end of May 22nd, a

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man, I think it was. And I ended up editing

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a video where we passed a it's called a giggle

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phone and it basically past this laugh around the world

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and ended up going to 72 countries and through 710

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people. And from that, I sort of looked at it

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and I thought, wait, now I've just met all these

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really, really amazing Laughter professionals. And then I looked at

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the podcasting and I thought, actually, I'd thought I'd do

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a little search and see who's doing laughter yoga and,

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you know, explaining all the benefits of the Laughter and

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that's nothing out there.

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And it was like, there's, there's, there's a gap here

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for me to sort of, and if you are these

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Laughter and get their stories in how Laughter has changed

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our lives, but also put my Positivity side of it

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as well. So, so I sort of bounce week-to-week on

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interviews between Laughter professionals and also positive mindset people. So

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whether they're business owners, whether they're business coaches, and then

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also drop in the session where she asked me to

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meet her, Microphone just explaining, you know, maybe what, what

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my daily habits are or what my position is at

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the moment. So yeah, that's where I came from.

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So. Cool. And, and you mentioned, obviously you've been doing

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this a long, so your business for at least the

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11 years plus. So do you work at prior to

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COVID obviously, but do you work it into your business

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and the people you work with? How does that tie

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in to your main business as well?

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So the Laughter or the Podcast In

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Well, I guess both. Yeah, because they both died and

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you know, it was a Laughter relating to the Podcast

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and then,

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And so, so I mean, The with regards to the

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Laughter side of the thing, I like it. So once

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I learnt how to lead Laughter, I bought it into

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my office. I've got a team of four in the

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office. So we started doing some regular Laughter exercises and

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it wasn't not for everyone, but I certainly, I suppose

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for me as a make-up it lifts my vibration, which

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then means I can manage the business to a higher

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level. That it's always, always better. If your hanging around

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with people that have got a good, a good positive

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vibration, for sure. And then, so what I also found

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with, especially with the podcast, I think I did a

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podcast previously, probably about four years ago.

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I started a podcast and it was geared to chefs.

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It was an app that I started called. It was

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called the chef trick with the app. But what, what

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happened was I did, I just did all of the

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mistakes, you know, I didn't, I didn't record loads of

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episodes didn't we didn't get like six episodes in the,

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in the bank. I didn't, I suppose we didn't have

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the passion, didn't have the foresight to see where it

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was going to go. So I recorded for three or

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four episodes. I think it was called the stockpot. So

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they thought it was quite a good play on the

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work and yeah, it, it just sort of fizzled out

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quite quickly really. However, what I've realized since starting this

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podcast is I have got at the moment, I've got

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a 13 I'm I'm on an episode, seven live out

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in the big wide world, but I've got another eight

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in the, in the background ready to sort of go

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out.

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And what I've been thinking about it already is when

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we go back into the real world and, you know,

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retail, we are not real without hospitality, it takes off

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again, I can utilize this podcasting skills and start going

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and interviewing some chefs, interviewing some business owners, interviewing, you

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know, some, some, hopefully celebrity chefs is just to say

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it again. It, it won't be Laughter in Positivity with

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P it would be somewhere to do with it, you

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know, chef, chef I'm. And then

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You mentioned like your work with Laughter professionals. So what

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would, what would a typical The Laughter professional look like?

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Is there a professional comedian or is it someone who

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is geared, as you mentioned to bring laughter to two

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people, but what would that look like?

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So Laughter professionals. I mean, there are the, I studied

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Laughter yoga. So I mean, the average Laughter professional is

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someone that can facilitate laughing. Exercise is, and breathing exercise

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is to get the audience to release anxiety, relinquish stress.

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They can just feel better connected with their colleagues or

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their family or whoever they're with. And the most Laughter

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professionals, you know, that they're not funny, but I would

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say they're not, it's not about comedy. It's not about

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making people laugh through jokes. It's making like a it's,

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it's guiding people to laugh, fire, breathing exercises, and different

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Laughter techniques.

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And 'em so most Laughter professionals that I've met or

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more sort of life coaches or a spirit, quite spiritual,

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quite a few of them. So although I was interviewing

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some of the other day, he was a mine has

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been in my mind is for 36 years as well.

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So, you know, that's a really interesting insight.

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How did you interview her? My MRI? I don't like

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to speak.

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And then luckily he was, which is we teach. I

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just realized that how that went out actually. So yeah,

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yeah, it was a bit one-sided

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They drive the direction as a conversation that way. So

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that's cool. Now that you mentioned, obviously that the podcast

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is in it's early stages, or at least publicly, you

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got seven episodes, so on, and I noticed that at

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your guests, they talk about it. Although it's like a,

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a, a single drive in topic, the actual, we talk

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about a wider variety. So obviously as you mentioned, or

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is there anything from laughter yoga to mental health issues?

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So is it a, a, a method that you, you

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fall off to choose who you want to have on?

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So, I mean, do you have set themes for an

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episode or a month, et cetera, or is it more

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organic? What is your sort of process there?

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So? So my process is a way that I basically,

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I want to do, and I'm doing one episode where,

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where it's me to eat. It's a solo episode. Then

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the Laughter episode to the Laughter episode is I will

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look at the people that have got following, which helps.

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And they've got an audience as well, but that those,

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all their audience that doesn't tend to be really know

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their story. And that sort of my, I suppose, the

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process of how I reach out to these people who

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say that, you know, that everyone knows you as they're

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like this Laughter yoga professional, but actually, do they know

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how Laughter came into your life?

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Did they know why you, why you have Laughter as

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a, as a means to release the mental health sort

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of issues that you've had in the past? And what

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I'm finding is where with those interviews, I don't, I

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don't know any of this really, before I start. And

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I find a few different things that they will say,

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something that similar to our interview. Now, you know what

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to say? So they'll say something, but I'm not actually,

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it was really interesting. We dive a bit deeper into

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that because actually my main mission with the podcast is

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a whole is actually to bring Laughter to the masses

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rather than actually it is, you know, it's quite, it's

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quite niche. Laughter yoga. People don't know about laughter yoga.

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They don't know that they can laugh. And the reason

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why we don't know, you know, how, how it, well,

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obviously we all know when we laugh, we feel good,

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but actually we don't know that we can do it

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for no reason. And so I suppose as part of

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the Podcast mission is to go, well, actually, can I

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take the Laughter and put it into more of the

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mainstream? And like I said, Podcast, and I think Podcast,

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and this is a good medium, because people would be

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listening, whether there are running, whether they're driving to work,

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whether they're just getting all of us in chores. And

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the way I do each Laughter episode is I always

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get the, the guy's to do their favorite to laughing

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exorcizes. So it brings laughter to the podcast, which is

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really, really interesting.

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And then, sorry, the other, so the other side is

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the Positivity side. So then again, where I've, I suppose,

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run a business for the last 11 years. I know

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lots of other business owners. I know Mo I know

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the ones that do have daily habits, daily rituals that

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I, and, and they're the ones that I thought of

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being attracted to initially, because actually, I know I've seen

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them grow over the last 11 years as well through

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practicing these different Positive daily routines.

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And because I had never heard of a one I

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was looking and a good background on the show, et

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cetera. I had never, as you mentioned, I never heard

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of, you know, yoga Laughter or Laughter yoga. Sorry. I,

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I noticed some people do in a goat yoga, which

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I've thought was pretty cool. There's like a meme in

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a video collection on our Facebook and YouTube all about

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that. But how, how do w what's the biggest, I

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guess, hurdle to overcome when you're trying to explain Laughter

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yoga to people that are, that might like myself having

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heard of it and, and feel that Laughter generally comes

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from watching funny programs or shows, et cetera.

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Yeah. Completely. Okay. So when you say that, the first

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thing for, for the hurdle, I would say Laughter, it

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was just a breath and we all know how to

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breathe. And so I would basically, I would say that

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the rough, so we'd take a deep breath in for

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our nose when we take a deep breath out and

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then on the next exhale, we just let our heart,

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so we take a deep breath in and then we

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go, ha ah, and then we do another deep breath

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and the next one would just do a haha. So

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we'd take a deep breath. We go, ah, ha ha

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ha.

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And Laughter is it's in us, it's within us. So

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yeah, it's like that, like I said, the bene the,

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of a massive, or, I mean just firm that, just

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doing that little lab there, I can feel that dope

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for me, spiking. I could feel more endorphins running around

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in my brain and it just, it just makes me

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feel good. It, and so I dunno, did that answer

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your question?

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Yeah, I know for sure. And how it will be

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definitely practice and some of that later, but it's interesting

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when you were there, like, you know, using it as

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an example, it went like the Phone or one went

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from the sort of evil emperor Laughter into like someone

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who is really having a great day. It was like,

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it was funny to, is not funny. It's interesting to

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watch for that sort of progression as that laugh came

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out. Was it pretty cool? Definitely be trying that later.

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So, so Danny let let's say evil emperor, then let

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me hear you the most evil laugh.

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So most of you all will laugh would probably be

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something like a Monte Barnes, like or something like that.

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And I'm not sure So then

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Extend up for a little bit longer.

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Or do you feel that I'm sad or feeling something

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that I didn't pick a big breakfast? I was cheering

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a little bit like that, I guess,

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But then there's a little bit little chocolate and your

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voice. I can add that.

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Yeah, no, definitely. No. And I like to say it,

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I'm definitely gonna try this. It sounds like a, a

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really fun one technique and I thought of a goal,

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so it'll be easier as well. We got for some

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of, you know, I know like your shirt, as we

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mentioned, it is it's in its early stages, but how

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has it been so far? How has it been like

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an episode that stuck with your resonated, the most out

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of the guests that you've had on

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Is that it's actually like if there was a Julie

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from America, she, yeah, it was just talking about how

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she discovered Laughter in her life and she's a grief,

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a grief counselor. And the story she was telling me

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was when she first met Matt, the discover at Laughter,

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she was doing a session where she had 16 people

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that were coming too hard that day, because there were

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gonna let go of some balloons with a tiger of

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the, the last ones. And so they, they literally were

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walking up this Hill with all of these tax and,

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you know, literally two, they could have a Laughter coming

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from the other side in July.

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He was just so out of Australia, mesmerized by the

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fact that it actually all of this laughing and these

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people were laughing for no reason. But then she looked

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at the chain of people that were, were grieving and

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actually they were all smiling and laughing. And the, the,

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the fact that The Laughter rubbed off. So, you know,

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so easily to, to, to anyone really by it. But

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if you surround yourselves with people laughing at it, it

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just naturally what makes you happy?

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No, and, and that's, that's an interesting approach. I, I

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know, I, I see a lot of people now that

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have started doing that. They're like planning to run for

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funerals and their own wakes, et cetera, because they want

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it to be a celebration as opposed to, you know,

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something that's depressed and, and sad and, and makes people

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upset. And that the people that have done that, and

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we'll have insured that the, the, the celebration of the

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life of your life as a happy affair, it's amazing

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to see the people that attended and, and their emotions

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and you know, how they remember happier times as opposed

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to the sadness of the past or in the past.

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Yeah. I mean, there's another story from another guy, Mike,

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who is the, the episode is not out yet, but

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he was saying it is sort of the most memorable

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Laughter session. And he ran was with 'em. It was

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a, a, a father of someone who reached out to

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him who basically had about two weeks to live through

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with cancer. And he was invited into their house with

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a, so it was his daughter, his wife, a husband.

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And I think that you said there was like six

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of them in, in the family room or family lounge.

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And, and she just want you to organize just sum

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Laughter and just releasing, you know, all of these sorts

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of emotions were obviously inside them.

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And yeah, he said it was like probably the most,

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well, it was the most memorable, the impactful thing that

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you never done to, to actually give them the, you

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know, that, that moment together where they didn't have a

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long left with, with their dad.

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No, I know that, like you had mentioned earlier that

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you're sure sort of, he goes between having a guest

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on, and then just yourself and, and your most recent,

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like, live episode in a way you talked about the

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five people whose had the most impact on your life.

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So looking at it, the, the, the, the, the impact

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of their hard and at the advice or whatever that

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he gave you, what do you thinks been the biggest

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difference in your life or what you think the biggest

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differences in your life would have been, had it not

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been for any of these five people?

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No, I think a, you know, basically it wasn't for

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my wife, Chloe meeting, how are, you know, I don't

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really want to put a year on it because it

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was, I can't remember. So I like it was 'em,

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but, you know, she, she has helped me through out

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lots of different things and, and, you know, she has

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to be in there to get me through certainly there's

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some of the darker times, so, but do I think

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it would be a podcasting now if I had met

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her? Nope. Do I know where it would be? You

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know, I don't really want to think about that because

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I think, yeah, I'd probably still be working in a

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restaurant somewhere.

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No, I wouldn't. Yeah. It wouldn't have any drive. I

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don't believe I wouldn't have any just self about the

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vacation. And I, and I'm not saying Chloe brings that

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like completely to me, but she certainly helped when it,

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when it came to sort of giving up the gambling

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and given up all of the substances, you know, she

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was there to support me through there. And I think

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then also just, just the books, the AUDIO that I've

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listened to, the videos that are seen, the conferences that

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I've been to has just created it, you know, turn

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me into the person that I am today. You ready?

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And, and then I was speaking of change. I mean,

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you have taken quite the career changed. You feel like

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now, what else are you still have your chefy? And

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you said that you mentioned, but since COVID-19 started and

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led you More to the, the Positivity and the Laughter

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site, and obviously the Podcast launch. So do you want

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to hear more about that in differences that made for

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you? Like a, is that something you want to continue?

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Once we get back to one of the form of

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normality, it looks like after COVID or are you still

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look in a split team?

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No, I think, I think what's going to happen is,

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and it's funny enough, I'm looking at my, my book,

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which has got all of the breakup of How. I

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see the future. So we get in to still have

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the sheriff agency. That's definitely gonna meet a lot after

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11 years. There was no way we were going to

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shut that if we've got a name and, you know,

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we've got, yeah, we built a lot of track record

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there. So, but what we've done is we we'd sort

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of re looked at it, how we're positioning are time

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within the business. That it's something that Covid has done

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because the, the team are offering it at the moment.

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So we were back to back to basics, basically like

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running, like what, like we were 11 years ago when

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we first started.

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However, what we've realized is that we both got our,

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the passions that we want to pursue. So we, we

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started looking at ways that we can manage the team

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when we go back in, which will then free up

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time. I would like to think, well, now I don't

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even like to think, I know I'm going to be

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spending at least 50% of my time doing the Positivity

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and Laughter side of things,

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You know, that you had mentioned, like, this is your

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second, Podcast the first one that you kind of gave

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up, like a lot of podcasts, as you know, I

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did early doors. It wasn't the juices weren't quite flowing.

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And now you've got this show, which as you mentioned,

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you were looking to, you know, spend a lot more

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time on it. So is it a single piece of

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advice or a, a solid piece of advice that you'd

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give to a new podcasters before the jump into the

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medium?

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I definitely do some reading and this is probably a

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few bits of advice, but the first thing I did

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was a do some research. There are plenty of YouTube

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videos out there that give you all the guidance that

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you need when it comes to podcasting. And, you know,

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they, they obviously do their top three tips in, you

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know, one of the, one of the big ones is

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the fact that being consistent and to be consistent, you

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need to, if you're, if you're doing so two episodes

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you need to have, so you have enough stuff to

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talk about, but if you're in, if you are in,

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you also need to have a good lineup of guests

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and they don't have to be, you know, these big

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players that can be anyone, you can interview your best

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mate for down the road. But as long as the,

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the content, the subject you're talking about and the, you

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know, the people want to listen to, and that your

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listeners is going to get something from it, then yeah,

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go for it.

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And that's probably about three bits of advice I gave

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that. It wasn't it.

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And that's all I know I had mentioned earlier when

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we were in the green room before the show, I

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will speak to the guys from their SquadCast add the

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other week there. And one of the things that Zach

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mentioned was we get so wrapped up into the technology

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side of it, and you know how I should have

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use this microphone and what post production should we use?

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What qualities should have been gone for, what attack should

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be used in a coordinated, et cetera. And it put

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so many people off because at the end of the

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day, you don't need to find the solution on top

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of a problem arises. So if you are just starting

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Podcast and I'm like, you mention, you know, to get

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your consistency and get your Topics land up, and then

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you can get started with like a basic, you know,

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a Apple pod. My air, I like the little microphone

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is that comes with a, with smartphones, with a headphone,

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make a combination, you know?

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So it was like, you see, I think you should

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just, you know, get started in the rest will fall

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out from there.

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Definitely. And the thing, you know, ultimately it, its due

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people to pick up, this is the right word. Do

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people want to listen to what you say? That that's

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not the, you know, you've got to be passionate about

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what you're doing. And I think that's the difference between

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the podcasts that I did before. And it was when

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I did that, there was another sort of a marketing

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arm. I had it in my head for the app

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that I was doing. Whereas this time around is like,

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actually the, you know, the drive is, I want more

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people to know about Laughter yoga that ultimately is it

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and how it's changed people's lives. And you know, and

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if that, if each day I can inspire one person

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to have a laugh a for no reason at all,

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then my job's done.

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And you know, obviously I'm not, I'm not getting caught

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up in like, Oh my goodness. So you need to

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get 10,000 followers and all that. That's not what it's

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about. Is it literally each day? If I can, if

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I can bring laughter into one person's life, then, then

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this is a good day.

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No, exactly. Your impact one person as you see it,

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as better than, you know, trying to impact like those

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and fake followers

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Completely completely.

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Now one is just to switch things up a little

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bit. What is something that not a lot of people

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know about you, you know why they would have known

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you for a few years, but they don't know, you

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know, as long as your, okay, we are talking about

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all or whatever, but what does something that makes supplies

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to people about, you know,

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What did people not know about me? The thing is

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I was pretty, I am quite an open book when

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it comes to Facebook and live feeds and just being

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who I am. What is the one thing that someone

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might now know about it? I mean, I'm, I'm vegan.

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I don't drink. Mmm. That's why I say I don't

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drink I'm a 110 days without any alcohol. So congratulations.

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Yeah. No, not that I'm a reformed alcoholic or anything.

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Its just something that I've had decided to do. What

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do they, okay. Yeah. So, so, so here we go

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to somebody that people are, a lot of people wouldn't

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know about me is I did two seasons and I'll

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be fair and it was a DJ over and I

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would be first.

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So I'm up to like a thousand people in the

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crowd. So yeah, that again, how are you a few

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days? You know? So that's another part of my life,

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but that, yeah, that's something that a lot of people

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probably don't know about it. Yeah.

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At the party capital of Europe completely. I remember going

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there, there were a few times when we'd be back

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in there that day and like in the wrong side

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of 15. Oh. So that was a long time, but

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a happy memory. So some happy memories it's a memory

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is they don't have, but I'm happy that that's cool.

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And what was the, the music that you had? Was

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it like, was it trans or was it techno or

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what was the

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Question? Just slightly.

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Oh, sorry. So what was the music you played there

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was like TRITON or techno or what?

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Well, so yeah, so trans is my main, yeah, it

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was transferred, played a lot more sort of, I suppose

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how seaside type of stuff in Ibiza is obviously the

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lyric vibe, but I'm the trance hot house had to

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take down. That's that's what gets me going. If I,

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if I'm, I said I'm looking at me vinyl across

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the room from there and that's just something that I've

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done again in this lockdown. I didn't, I didn't have

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to be vinyl. A lot of my decks plugged in

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for such a long time and then locked down, came

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in and I started putting in a few live sets

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out there and, and again, one more to people were

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watching and there's the response was, I'd just been dancing

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around the living room for the last hour. Thanks. Pete

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it was just like cool. So by that

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Excellent. Combined it with a smile when you got the

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perfect combination.

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Completely, completely awesome.

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So Pete, I really appreciate your coming on the show

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today. I I'm really looking forward to trying out the

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The Laughter exercises later on. I'm going to get my

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kids are involved in that as well. They, they, they

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could, I definitely use a little bit with that and

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for people that want to find out more about yourself

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and Laughter yoga and you know, get possible, get in

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touch with Tara. Can I, you can have a one

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on ones, et cetera. Where's the best place that people

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can find you?

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Yeah, probably the best place. She was just head straight

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to my site, which is a pecan.com and its all

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on there. All my, all my social media handles and

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the podcast and everything is all hosted there. So yeah,

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Pete I can see a double N for november.com.

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Okay, awesome. And I'll make sure to drop the links

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to, to both the website and your show, et cetera,

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and near the show notes. So if people want me

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to check it out, their details will be in the

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show notes. Okay. So, so I can say, I really

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appreciate your coming on and I will certainly be trying

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the The Laughter yogurt out later and what some of

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the upcoming episodes that you've got coming up for the

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show.

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Okay. So I have got, I should, do you have

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caught me on to help him? You get it, there

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was a guy called Gasa bouts, a gallery forward, which

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is a really neat, he's just all about, about a

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positive affirmations and how we can overcome some S some

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loss in this life over the last few years is

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a really, really powerful, powerful episode. And I've got a,

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again, a guy called Mike Forrester from Canada, who, who

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is the Laughter Laughter leader, the Higgs, the guy who

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went into the family's houses as a, as their father

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who was passing. So it's yeah, again, that's some, there's

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some deep, deep stuff there, which is really, really good.

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Okay. I'll hold it for you to listen to that.

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Danny Brown

Danny Brown is the host of One Minute Podcast Tips, the show that helps you be a better podcaster in just a minute a week. He's also hosted, and co-hosted, several other podcasts - if you called him a serial podcaster, you wouldn't be wrong! He's been in the podcasting space for over 10 years, and has the scars to prove it.

He's the Head of Podcaster Support and Experience at Captivate.fm, the world's only growth-oriented podcast hosting, distribution, analytics, and monetization platform for the serious indie podcaster.

He lives in beautiful Muskoka, Ontario, Canada with his wife and two kids, where he spends winters in front of a cozy fire and summers by the lake. Well, when he finds time away from podcasting, of course...